Transformers

Oh don't pretend you didn't want one. So discuss anything to do with the transforming bots here, i will start, what are your thoughts on starscream (movie) will he die in ROTF or rise as the hero once again?

StarScream will probably run away, again. He does that when he can see that the battle isn't going his way.

I can't see him becoming a hero, IMO.

Well dont forget, he befriended a human in a series. (dont remember which, i think armada) in which he changes his color and fights megatron, i think to defend the human. They live but starscream is killed. In the movie, i could see the fight starting to got in the autobot's favor in which case Megatron would release the fallen and starscream would heroically try to fight him off but would ultimately fail. But considering screamer is my fave. decepticon, i pray if he does go out it is something like that, or maybe they will play on his immortality? And to witch king, i think the movie starscream is different, only after all the other decepticons were dead did starscream retreat, to stay and fight would be stupid, and stupid he is not, he was able to take off bumblebee's legs and incapacitate ironhide and ratchet for a short time and organized the entire decepticon move to earth, this starcream seems almost like a more stealthy version of megatron, but watch they will ruin all that in the sequel....

Mr. Lordi wrote:Well dont forget, he befriended a human in a series. (dont remember which, i think armada) in which he changes his color and fights megatron, i think to defend the human.

The only Decepticon to ever become an Autobot is JetFire. You might be confusing StarScream with him (they do both transform into jets, so it's understandable).

Mr. Lordi wrote:And to witch king, i think the movie starscream is different, only after all the other decepticons were dead did starscream retreat, to stay and fight would be stupid, and stupid he is not, he was able to take off bumblebee's legs and incapacitate ironhide and ratchet for a short time and organized the entire decepticon move to earth, this starcream seems almost like a more stealthy version of megatron, but watch they will ruin all that in the sequel....

Nope. Brawl, Megatron, and Blackout were still very much alive when he left. He didn't incapacitate Ironhide and Ratchet (more like the other way around). There is no evidence to say that he coordinated the Decepticon move to Earth. Not only that, he acts almost exactly like the G1 StarScream (running when the battle looks like he can't win, etc.).

This is my Fav Transformer ! Here :

no actually the movie prequel dives deeper into his planning of the move to earth, and my bad it wasnt a human, he couldn't take magetron anymore and moved to the autobots. And brawl and blackout were dropped into the trench thing at the end? They are dead? Although blackout is set to return in the game sequel. And have you seen the movie?

Starscream isnt even hit by them? the only thing that damages him are the jets?

Edit: here is the fight with ironhide and ratchet, you need to fast forward a bit, and he also blew off bumblee's legs but that is not in the video.

Mr. Lordi wrote:no actually the movie prequel dives deeper into his planning of the move to earth, and my bad it wasnt a human, he couldn't take magetron anymore and moved to the autobots.

The movie is base off of the G1 transformers. Have you ever watched an episode of G1?

Mr. Lordi wrote:And brawl and blackout were dropped into the trench thing at the end? They are dead?

Brawl got killed by Bumblebee, and Blackout was killed by Capt. Lennox.

Mr. Lordi wrote:Although blackout is set to return in the game sequel. And have you seen the movie?

Probably more then you have.

haha, we have a smart A. First off, i have seen G!, and even if it is based on G! there are many differences, if you read the prequel, which obviously you havent, then you would know exactly how starscream planned it. And both brawl and blackout were dropped into the abyss at the end, to ensure that they would never come back.

Mr. Lordi wrote:haha, we have a smart A. First off, i have seen G!, and even if it is based on G! there are many differences, if you read the prequel, which obviously you havent, then you would know exactly how starscream planned it.

And I should put faith in something that isn't cannon..why?

Mr. Lordi wrote:And both brawl and blackout were dropped into the abyss at the end, to ensure that they would never come back.

You were the one saying they would come back, not me.

Blackout is back, at least in the game for ROTF. And The movie prequel is canon. look it up.

Mr. Lordi wrote:Blackout is back, at least in the game for ROTF.

Which doesn't make sense, because Lennox killed him (though bringing back Megatron doesn't make sense either).

Mr. Lordi wrote:And The movie prequel is canon. look it up.

No, it isn't. It isn't even close.

Witch King it is canon, look it up, or go and get the book, it has been stated several times it is canon. And it is basic knowledge starscream planned the move to earth. This is how bumblebee's broken voice thing ties in, a prior confrontation with the decepticons in the prequel.